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PostSubject: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 1:47 am

General information:

Characters name: Martindanger
Class: Hunter
Race: Night Elve
Level: 70
Started playing WoW: over 1 year
Played Time on your char: 60 days
Proffesions Primary and Secundary: Mining/LW
How stable is your internet connection: highly stable
Whats you regular FPS rate in a 25 man raid: 30

Raid times and Experience:

We raid from Monday till Friday with different times. How many of these day can you attend. Please clarify them with the day and the time. Delete applicable.
Monday 19:30-23:30: Yes
Tuesday 19:30-23:30: Yes
Wednesday19:15-24:00: Yes
Thursday 19:30-23:30: Yes
Friday 19:30-xx:xx: Yes (usually stay up til about 6am, I can stay up longer if required)
Saturday is rest day xxxxx
Sunday 19:30-23:30: Yes

Whats your pre-TBC raiding experience? none
Applying
The Burning Crusade experience: Kara/ZA/Mag/Gruul
Raid Experience within the following dungeons:
Serpent Shrine Caverns:
Tempest Keep:
Mount Hyjal:
Black Temple:
Sunwell Plateau:
Zul’Aman: cleared

General questions

Previous guilds and reasons for leaving? the guild didnt have enough players for 25mans, bean doing kara for ages now, no progression to move on 25mans
Remember this can checked


Why did you choose too become the class you are currently playing with? Hunter was my first class, just random

What are the biggest advantages you have within this class and what is your role in a raid? Specify this to your spec.
with hunter, agro isnt a problem, hunters can dps very fast, very mana effient with steady shot & aspect of viper

Stats unbuffed:
Health: 9k (I have PVP gear, merciless and brutal to buff up HP if needed up to 12/13k)
Mana: 7.4k
Attack power (Melee/ranged) 1700(bm)
Spell damage/Healing power:
(Spell)Crit:

Any other stats which are needed in your class. This is also to test your knowledge about your class so make a good choice. (Posting all stats won’t do the trick or referring to armory).

567 agi - 25% crit
Has crossbow of relentless strike


What do you think you can add to Eternals?
1 more raider that can help the guild progress

What do you think Eternals can do for you?
can allow me to raid for the guild, fair loot drops and badge runs

Some Real life info. Country, RL age, Name, Work, Interest?
London, UK, 20, Martin, uni student

Additional information which you would like too name?
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 2:12 am

Martinda wrote:

What are the biggest advantages you have within this class and what is your role in a raid? Specify this to your spec.
with hunter, agro isnt a problem, hunters can dps very fast, very mana effient with steady shot & aspect of viper


Aspect of the Viper is your worst enemy and every measure must be taken to avoid having to resort to it.
What would you do to stay out of it, what debuffs on the boss, what groupset up would you want, in order to avoid it?
If you are forced into it, what would you do to minimise the time you spend in it?

Your spec on the armory dosent seem right for pve, its much more pvp orientated, could you elaborate on your pve spec?

And also could you explain the shot rotation you do to maximise damage?
Do you use any form of addon to help? Do you use a macro or do it manually?

(Sorry for the hundreds of questions, just with your level of experience I need to know im talking to soemone whos worth the time to gear up Smile )
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 2:21 am

ok the spec im in now was just an experimental for PVP

my main pve spec is BM 41/20, the shot rotation is steady shot auto shot, scorpid sting on boss to reduce chance to hit, kill command

I'd like to be with sp or shaman that way i wouldnt have to resort to it, also with all my consumables and buffs from raid i should have spirit high enough to not resort to it, i normally resort to it when we're lacking DPS and fights are dragged out until everyones mana poool is almost done. aspect of the hawk will be used if not oom
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 2:31 am

As youll almost always be classed as 'casting' the spirit wont help you much ^^
Some points you were missing though, Paladins can judge wisdom onto the boss, givign you 72 mana back on hit, always insist on this, its essential.

Can you tihnk of any way of gaining more mana back while in viper, so that you can get back into hawk faster? Read the tooltip and think :p

Could you just clarify if you use any macro/addon to help with dps?


And finally, the guild is up to Brutallus in Sunwell at the moment. This fight is a dps race, the BM hunters needing to pack about 2000 dps, what gear would you think ideal for this? And can you list the exact consumables you'd use on him Smile
Top marks if you get the correct elixer:D

Im not expecting the reply to be instant btw, put some thought and look around the gear listings for this :p
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 2:59 am

Can you tihnk of any way of gaining more mana back while in viper, so that you can get back into hawk faster? Read the tooltip and think :p
viper works better when on low mana, potting is always good

Could you just clarify if you use any macro/addon to help with dps?

/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/cast [target=pettarget] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, Auto Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

this addon is all i use when dpsing, i got in on my mouse scroll, it uses steadshot/autoshot(without capping the auto shot) and kill command


And finally, the guild is up to Brutallus in Sunwell at the moment. This fight is a dps race, the BM hunters needing to pack about 2000 dps, what gear would you think ideal for this? And can you list the exact consumables you'd use on him Smile
Top marks if you get the correct elixer:D

Flask of Relentless Assault 120 power
20 agi and spirit food buff (warp burger)
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 3:34 am

Not quite what I was after :p

Q1. The mana returned from viper is a percentage of total intelect. While in viper have 2 weapons handy both enchanted with +30 int, and with sockets with int gems in, this way the mana return is much faster.Once you switch back to hawk, go back to your normal dps weapons.

Q2. Good maco, cast sequences work well

Q3. Elixer of Demonslaying was the top mark answer :p its more AP than a flask and Brutallus is a demon Smile
Also missing Weapon oil/coating, pet buff food (kibblers bits) and scroll of agility :p

Get back to me on what armor pieces you think you'd need. Smile So far its looking good though Smile
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 4:02 am

I gotz Q1 and Q3 right do i getz a cookie?
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 4:13 am

dps trinkets is a must, so maybe the hourglass of the unraveler or even better dragonspine trophy, the dps trinket from priestest (MgT heroic)
hunter trinket from being exalted with BT

set bonus for t6 is good, head, gloves, legs and either chest or wrist from SW as you've beaten boss
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 11:29 am

Sorry,

But are we really gonna bother trying to gear up this hunter. I mean all the answer he has given so far can be googled, and are not fully right even or complete answers.

I have a hunter myself as you know Ronan. And indeed he gives answers that are true in some way but he also leaves out a lot of things.

Things that are not easaly to think about, but still can be googled even or just found on boss tactics or hunter forums, if you are willing to show in effort for your apply, take time in giving an answer think it true and then go for it. Not instanly post hoping you will get in.

BTW trinket of MgT heroic...... <buzzer> Wrong answer, Expertise is not needed for hunters the proc will happen but you are better of with hour glass which imo is easier to farm and getting the badges one for now, hell even the one from mechanar is oke.

Btw gear wise he goes tier 6 is what i want. and the names 4 pieces including the bracers. I mean hello we killed this boss ones, work with a DKP system where he has to pay endlessly to get geared and of all item he names the bracers.
Sorry but that is rude. Exclamation

While my frustration are building up, i will give you the answer.
It should be Head, Chest, Gloves, Shoulders. Which other shoulder would he have for now. Pants i would take aswell incase an items drops which is better than that specific Tier 6 item (head illidan). Then he doesn't name his non set gear.
Which should be leggings of Azgalor - Neck of Suprumus - Cloak of Teron Gorefiend or haste one from Zul'Aman - Bracers of Rage winterchill - badges Ring- Black Temple Thrash drop - Boots pray you get the ones from Teron. Trinkets should be Badges one then - ZA one - After a shitload of farmnight BT one - DST - Leo trinket.

Sorry to go into the answer but i hold myself back at first, but this is more going the wrong way then the right way imo.

Ronan you will have the final answer in this. But lets be fair sad but true i vote No
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 4:23 pm

eh?
I didnt say i want t6 and i want all this gear, i was answering a question on what the best gear you could have to fight brutallus.

and why are you accusing me of googling the answers?
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 8:29 pm

Umm as i see, u missing me guys? Very Happy Razz
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeFri Sep 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Because all the answers you give are the standard anwsers that are given by hunters that do not have the experience upon the bosses we currently.

i mean why did you not mentioned the shoulders, as imo the are the best till SWP?

why did you left out the weapon buffs?

how come you only mentioned tier 6 items and not your other items?

You give an anwser so fast to the questions mentioned by Ronan, that you do not think about giving the best possible answer. I am sorry but its a fact.

And how do you expect you will manage in MH/BT without having any gear for it or any experience than instances who are being PuG'ed in the weekends.

further more you do not state your crit % in your apply, your Hit or other stats. In my eyes you do not look like the person we will be needing for our current raids.

Ps. I did not accuse you of googling, i stated that your answers could be googe as in the are the standard answers people give.

Laters
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 5:08 am

m8 im not joining the guild anymore

and if the spot isnt going to me, its not going to you, so stop sabbotaging every hunter application on the forum because your not gonna raid with your hunter

Later
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 5:19 am

Korgan got owned lol

GL with the search for a guild Martin
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 5:41 am

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

TBH i am alrdy in this guild on my shaman and further more i don't want the spot for my hunter as i still have to much fun on my shaman. But if i would have made the same apply i do know who Ronan would have picked (Ronan don't fuck me just by saying "yeah it would have been Martin". albino

But i do know the fact my ALT hunter is better geared and played than your main char. Also the raid would prolly benefit more from me as i actualy seen al the instances/bosses up untill the first boss in Black Temple so i won't die of the first attack of the boss.


Maybe a Kara guild is looking for a hunter, to upgrade his pvp gear to at least some knowledge of PVE gear.

LATER
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 5:58 am

i already got what i need from kara

dont mention pvp, you stand no chance

and omg, a lvl 58 shaman, looks like someone is raising a new char that the guild will take because the hunter dont have a place, talk about suxing balls
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 12:14 pm

Hhhmmm, think i lost you there.

First of my shaman is lvl 70 and if you mean your own shaman you might aswell forget it as you will have to go through me for that spot. What a Face You prolly won't even know what stats you need for it. Ooww no wait www.google.com.

Then again you say don't mention pvp you don't stand a chance....

Well i reckon i might loose as i have zero pvp gear since the changed it so much around its just putting in time and get the epics, that i lost every fun with it. In pre TBC i would have powned your ass.

Would have been funny to see tag along and die every single fight in Black Temple tho.

Ronan can we take him with us one time pplzzzzzzzzzz so i can shit myself about his repair bill.

Now Martinda, i say find a Gruul, Maggy farming guild and hope that the might make it into SSC/TK before the patch comes.

Adios
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSat Sep 06, 2008 2:43 pm

This is a charming thread o.O
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 12:27 am

you can talk crap until the end of time, but it wont make a bit of difference, you wont raid on your hunter
everyone already knows thats the only reason why you posted in this thread
so kiss goodbye the dream of dpsing in raids and stick to your chain heals and heroism (which imo still wouldnt help you win in 5v5 even though its like the best thing for 5v5)
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 12:42 am

I am Raid leader and GM of Eternals. Korgan, your hunter can raid in the next farm night.
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 2:34 am

Can my rogue?
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 3:45 am

Does he want priority too? lol
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 4:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeSun Sep 07, 2008 4:11 am

Can i raid as ret?
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PostSubject: Re: high dps bm hunter   high dps bm hunter Icon_minitimeMon Sep 08, 2008 9:18 pm

look! Korgan got his cocked sucked for the first time!
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